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Petrol really going GAGA

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:16 pm
by soc
Just filled the GTI - 61 euro for 51 litres!!! The price is going bloody crazy - the 1.30 litre really isn't that far off!

Surely the hike in the cost of oil is going to have a knock on effect on most other aspects of the economy (and not just petrol)?? Home heating oil, transport costs for goods (and therefore goods, groceries, etc), gas, etc.......

I wonder how far it will go before something is done to control the issue - will it get as far as a world recession??

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:39 pm
by RussMan
It is really getting to scary territory..... If it wasn't for the yanks using a 1/3 of the worlds supply we wouldn't have this problem.. well not yet!! Bloody silly 'bstards need to put an 8 litre block to get 500 hp!! useless engineering imo!

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:39 pm
by RussMan
woops rant there!

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:57 pm
by Dave
it's the U.S that's the problem!! they pay something like 30cent a litre!! and they complain about that!!

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:09 pm
by Myfeckin FTO
This current crisis will surely tip the balance in favour of alternative fuels whose high manufacturing costs are now suddendly making sense to produce - anyone see the new all electric Evo? This looks like the future - wonder what the exhaust sounds like :lol:

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:30 pm
by kevinod
Filled up at lunchtime, 44.4l, and ok it was vpower (only the best for my baby) but about 55 quid.

One of the most annoying aspects to this though is they'll push up the prices 'because of the oil rigs out of action with the hurricane', and thus a temporary problem, but won't push it back down again after. The petrol companies are getting some serious profiteering going, their profits are only going up and up.

I think it'll have to come to alternative fuel sources, but at the moment there is no viable alternative. Can you imagine what would happen if we all switched to electric cars for example, there'd all of a sudden be a huge shortage of electrical generating capacity (they lead us to believe its a problem already), and thus the cost of electricity will go through the roof.

It'll prob have to be a combination of both new fuel sources development but also controls put in to stop this from happening with whatever we do use, nothing to stop the biodiesel producers for example from having a shortage and doing the exact same thing.

Kev.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:35 pm
by RussMan
Don;t forget though.. with electric cars need electricity.... electricity comes from burning fossil fuels... no oil for cars also means no oils for power plants.... Has anyone looked into Compressed Hyrogen power? Seems a bit scary having liquid Hydrogen in your boot under some serious pressure!! It's like driving a bomb around all day :)

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:40 pm
by Myfeckin FTO
RussMan wrote:..electric cars need electricity.... electricity comes from burning fossil fuels...


Not neccessarily - there are a lot of options for creating Electricity that don't involve buring fossil fuels - hydro/wind/biomass etc

Heres the Electric Evo link I forgot on my last post - http://autocar.co.uk/News_Article.asp?NA_ID=216845

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:43 pm
by Myfeckin FTO
RussMan wrote:........It's like driving a bomb around all day :)


Well us Mivec Manual peeps already know what driving a missile is like so a bomb shouldn't faze us. :lol:

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:43 pm
by adrian
I got the fright of my life on Saturday..... filled the car and the jet ski together which were both nearly empty and cost me 107 euro!
NEVER had it that expensive.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:54 pm
by RussMan
Snob!! :D

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:55 pm
by RussMan
Only joking i'm just green with jealousy... would love a jet ski!!!
I had a similar event last firday 65 in the car and 7 euro to fill up the tank for my lawnmower!!! used to cost me 2 pounds

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:14 pm
by kevinod
RussMan wrote:Only joking i'm just green with jealousy... would love a jet ski!!!
I had a similar event last firday 65 in the car and 7 euro to fill up the tank for my lawnmower!!! used to cost me 2 pounds


Hmmm 7 euro.... few mods here and there and you might have you a cheap mode of transport! :lol: :wink:

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:27 pm
by soc
RussMan wrote:It is really getting to scary territory..... If it wasn't for the yanks using a 1/3 of the worlds supply we wouldn't have this problem.. well not yet!! Bloody silly 'bstards need to put an 8 litre block to get 500 hp!! useless engineering imo!


F**king yanks are always involved when something bad is going down.... there was a time the US was considered a saviour (WWII) but now (IMHO) the US is full of self-centered, egotistical, a$$holes created by that idiot Bush's administration!

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:33 pm
by kevinod
shane wrote:
RussMan wrote:It is really getting to scary territory..... If it wasn't for the yanks using a 1/3 of the worlds supply we wouldn't have this problem.. well not yet!! Bloody silly 'bstards need to put an 8 litre block to get 500 hp!! useless engineering imo!


F**king yanks are always involved when something bad is going down.... there was a time the US was considered a saviour (WWII) but now (IMHO) the US is full of self-centered, egotistical, a$$holes created by that idiot Bush's administration!


Bush jr. is one of the worst things to happen to the world recently, how he got elected for a second term is just staggering... cynics would suggest the iraq invasion was part of the strategy to maintain power, nothing like a war to get an economy going or pull a countries citizens behind its leader.

China is just getting going, Russia is struggling, a pity Europe can't get its sh*t together and challenge as an economic force, reign the yanks back in a bit.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:54 pm
by Mustang
kevinod wrote:. The petrol companies are getting some serious profiteering going, their profits are only going up and up.

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Indeed they are, because it still costs them the same to produce the oil regardless of the selling price. But the current profiteering is going on at the pumps. The price of crude actually fell towards the end of last week a full $1.30/barrel in one day. Yet the price at the pumps is still rising - This reminds me of the sneaky price rises introduced at the Euro changer over when everyone was a little 'confused' as regards what the price should be.

MfFTO wrote
Heres the Electric Evo link I forgot on my last post - http://autocar.co.uk/News_Article.asp?NA_ID=216845


Nah! This is FTO Ireland what you really want is an FTO-EV

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:46 pm
by Muad_dib77
That FTO-Ev is amazing.
I wonder what the Top speed is..didn't see anything about that on the site.

Just as an update on the Petrol prices; I've noticed prices have come down two places on the N2..One (Top on the Duleek/Drogeheda Road) was 122.9 - it's now down to 116.9..and the Statoil (Could be Texaco never really look at the signs) on the top of the N2 hill (just outside Ashbourne) has come down to 115.9 - was 119.9. I doubt it'll ever go under 90 again though. Stupid Americans spending all our juice.

I heard a rumour that they habour terrorists and WMDs over there. Anybody up for an invasion?