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Are you more drawn to .IE or .COM domains when searching?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:05 pm
by adrian
Hey all,

Thinking of starting a small sideline web business, early stages yet so will not go into details as I don't even know them yet! Anyway, would you rather see a (for example) www.myMechanic.ie or a www.myMechanic.com for a classifieds/listing/directory web site? It's only an example but one which makes the point.

Just wanted to get an idea of what you web users think.

A

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:23 pm
by colm_mcm
.ie would obviously suggest an Irish website. I'd have a preference for that if I needed an Irish site.

.ie sites are a bit of a pain to get in comparison to .com addresses.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:28 pm
by TopCat
As per Colm, if I was looking for a service to be provided within the country, I'd be more drawn to a .ie

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:33 pm
by karlf
It would depend what I was looking for. For a service (like a mechanic in your example) I'd want .ie as I'm only going to take my car to a mechanic in Ireland. But if I was buying something (like car parts or clothes) I'd go with .com see whats the cheapest option available and go with that.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:03 pm
by CJ
In addition to what the other have said, the TLD that you choose should have you target market in mind i.e. are you doing business in Ireland only or further afield. If you're talking about a web design biz, I would assume that the domain name will form part of your business identity - something else to consider.

In the past .ie domains where considered to be more prestigious, this is not the case since the IEDR opened up the domain to non-business and organisational entities.

CJ

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:40 pm
by gfalls
Ever thought of a .eu suffix instead? I hear there all the rage at the moment.. :D

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:09 pm
by adrian
Thanks all, appreciate the input.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:19 pm
by kevinod
If I were you I'd register both .com and .ie if they're available, then you'd catch whichever people try.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:22 am
by optical illusion
It all depends on your target market ultimately.

I'm patriotic so I would always go out of my way to find a .ie domain. That's just me, though.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:34 am
by finers
Need to have a business to register for an .ie domain;)

As stated if ur target is local or international.
Try both and have a reference page at the start;)?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:19 am
by colm_mcm
finers wrote:Need to have a business to register for an .ie domain;)


Not true. depends on the name of the site you've got and whether it fits in with what you want to do with the site.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:53 am
by finers
colm_mcm wrote:
finers wrote:Need to have a business to register for an .ie domain;)


Not true. depends on the name of the site you've got and whether it fits in with what you want to do with the site.



Wellll This is the information i got when trying to registering a .ie
from http://www.register365.com.

I am going to try register one in a month or two and see what happens,
Maybe there not that strict with this rule set.


Registration Criteria
Ireland

Registration is restricted to 3 categories of entity:

(1) Companies registered in Ireland

(2) Entities possessing a 'real and substantive connection' with Ireland, for example those that trade in Ireland.

(3) Entities possessing a registered Irish, United Kingdom or European Community trademark

In all situations there is no restriction on the number of domains names that may be held by a single entity.
However, the proposed domain name must still closely correspond to the trademark or company name but may include plurals, descriptors or non descriptive elements such as numbers or letters and may also differ in respect of signs, symbols or punctuation. It is possible for a non Irish entity to be recorded as the legal registrant of a domain name in situations 2 and 3.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:51 pm
by colm_mcm
Those rules listed above only deal with whether you have an Irish connection or not. nothing about the commercial nature or otherwise of your site.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:22 pm
by finers
colm_mcm wrote:Those rules listed above only deal with whether you have an Irish connection or not. nothing about the commercial nature or otherwise of your site.


How does "Companies" and companies who "trade" in Ireland not have a commercial nature :shock:

If it's just looking for an Irish connection without a commercial nature surely the 4.5 million people are eligible to apply which is NOT the case.

Saying this i have never registered a .ie domain have done for .com's etc.

.com's are first come first served, .ie's you do have to be vetted!! be4 the domain is granted.

The link says it all, saying this I'm sure one could get one by not following the criteria.

A. Sole Trader = needs Vat number / Proof of business

B. Limited Company registering its own name = same as above

C. Limited Company registering a trading name = same as above

D. Limited Company registered outside Ireland = proof of trading in ireland

E. Unincorporated Association/Club = roof of Trading letter from your accountant, bank manager or solicitor.

G. Publication/Newspaper = Proof / Proof of buiness.

Sourced:
http://www.nua.ie/irishdomainrequirements.htm

Sorry if this is gone way off topic but i really do not think average joe can be eligible for a .ie domain according to these criteria.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:53 pm
by colm_mcm
The IEDR added a discretionary name category, this covers websites that don't fall into the existing categories.

They require a detailed letter setting out the aims of the website, and in some cases require more proof.

more details on www.iedr.ie

PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:12 pm
by finers
Still seems very ambiguous, basically states if you don't have a commercial license you will need allot of proof and persuasion to back the preposed site.

So i would say u would have to prove that the site would be beneficial for Ireland.

So it's not just Business nor do you have to just prove the site has connections with Ireland.

Don't think there is a clear answer as it's up to the discretion of idr.

Interesting do.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:27 pm
by colm_mcm
finers wrote:Still seems very ambiguous, basically states if you don't have a commercial license you will need allot of proof and persuasion to back the preposed site.


It's not as hard as it sounds.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:30 pm
by finers
colm_mcm wrote:
finers wrote:Still seems very ambiguous, basically states if you don't have a commercial license you will need allot of proof and persuasion to back the preposed site.


It's not as hard as it sounds.


Have you tried it? would like to know how strict are as i know a friend of mine went through allot of trouble registering one.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:39 pm
by colm_mcm
I did it a while back, only had to write a few emails, give some personal details and they were happy with that. I assume it depends greatly on the type of site you're thinking of.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:56 pm
by d_dan
when it comes to cars i alllwasy go by the country.
cos .com to me is the US and nothing from their cars fit others. EG. us spec celica and jap and so on

PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:00 pm
by Bernard
d_dan wrote:when it comes to cars i alllwasy go by the country.
cos .com to me is the US and nothing from their cars fit others. EG. us spec celica and jap and so on



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