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Postby d_dan » Fri May 09, 2008 9:27 am

Thought some of the lads might be intrested. when I came across this.



FTO Gearboxes the manual ratio`s are not all the same.

Well they are however there are 2 different output shafts available one 17 teeth and one 16, which gives you 2 different final drives the 4.312 list on every FTO site you see but also a 4.058

So with an 8000 redline and 4.312 final drive you get
Top Speed in 1 gear = 36.190 MPH
Top Speed in 2 gear = 66.600 MPH
Top Speed in 3 gear = 94.032 MPH
Top Speed in 4 gear = 125.894 MPH
Top Speed in 5 gear = 158.135 MPH

and with an 8000 redline and 4.058 final drive you get
Top Speed in 1 gear = 38.460 MPH
Top Speed in 2 gear = 70.777 MPH
Top Speed in 3 gear = 99.930 MPH
Top Speed in 4 gear = 133.789 MPH
Top Speed in 5 gear = 168.052 MPH

This should knock 3-400 rpm off your motorway cruising..
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Postby Muad_dib77 » Fri May 09, 2008 10:27 am

So which fto has which output? is there any way of determining without taking the car apart?
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Postby colm_mcm » Fri May 09, 2008 11:33 am

Can anyone confirm what rpm their GR/GPX/GPvR does at 100kmph in 5th?
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Postby sinlessgunner » Fri May 09, 2008 11:35 am

My GPX gives around 3500 RPM at 100kph
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Postby colm_mcm » Fri May 09, 2008 11:49 am

could the different final drive refer to 1.8 and 2.0 models?
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Postby Wildhound » Fri May 09, 2008 11:57 am

I know that mine will definitely do 70+ just before the shift in second going onto the M50.
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Postby Myfeckin FTO » Fri May 09, 2008 12:54 pm

Whatever way you look at it thats very high gearing for a 200bhp sports car. The FTO is one of the few cars I know that you don't need to go beyond 3rd gear for a 1/4 mile sprint. The equivalant DC2 Type R's are well into their 4th gear despite similar terminal speeds.

I'm sure a shorter ratio would really help the FTO's 1/4 mile times but you'd have to put up with a busier sounding engine on a day to day basis.


BTW - I don't know where you got the second set of figures. AFAIK - the standard FTO Manual box on GS/GR/GPX etc uses a 4.312 final drive ratio. The FTO would be at a performance disadvantage using the second set of figures.
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Postby Wildhound » Fri May 09, 2008 12:57 pm

Myfeckin FTO wrote:BTW - I don't know where you got the second set of figures. AFAIK - the standard FTO Manual box on GS/GR/GPX etc uses a 4.312 final drive ratio. The FTO would be at a performance disadvantage using the second set of figures.


Yeah and mine appears to use the second set. :(

I haven't driven it in a while so I'll have to make sure when I get it back but I'm pretty sure it'll shift up to third on the far side of 70. Of course that could just be down to some sort of inaccuarcy in the delimiter...

I always wondered why the FTO didn't have a performance advantage over the DC2 despite a better power to weight ratio. I wonder is it down to gearing?
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Postby Muad_dib77 » Fri May 09, 2008 1:12 pm

Does anybody know of a different gearbox that would fit the FTO? Like perhaps maybe one from an EVO or a Galant?

I wouldn't mind getting a 6 gear box - just dreaming really.. You know what I'm like :-)
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Postby Myfeckin FTO » Fri May 09, 2008 1:27 pm

Wildhound wrote:
............mine appears to use the second set. :(

I haven't driven it in a while so I'll have to make sure when I get it back but I'm pretty sure it'll shift up to third on the far side of 70. Of course that could just be down to some sort of inaccuarcy in the delimiter...

I always wondered why the FTO didn't have a performance advantage over the DC2 despite a better power to weight ratio. I wonder is it down to gearing?


I would be surprised if you are using a 4.058 final drive ratio - never heard of it on an FTO before - its already too highly geared on a 4.312 final drive ratio.

I found when doing the 1/4 mile sprints in the FTO that if I went beyond 60mph in 2nd that I was loosing time on the overall 1/4 mile time. My fastest 0-60 time was 6.4 secs however on my fastest 1/4 mile time (14.7) - my fastest 0-60 was 6.7secs ( I had changed into 3rd at around 58mph). It all came down to where the peak power band lies in the FTO - going into 8200rpm plus wasn't helping my time as my peak power lay around 7900-8100rpm. It was also important to keep the FTO in the mivec zone - if you fell out of it at all (on upchanges) you were going to get a slow time. Factors like tyre diameter and engine mods will also have an effect on individual FTO's.
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Postby steelroe » Fri May 09, 2008 8:07 pm

I have a feeling the diff ratio's refer to MIvec and non mivec 2.0L models
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Postby Syst3m » Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:44 am

colm_mcm wrote:Can anyone confirm what rpm their GR/GPX/GPvR does at 100kmph in 5th?


From memory my GR sits at about 3100 rpm at 100km/h which i always thought was quite high
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Postby d_dan » Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:57 pm

60 mph & 2700-2800
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Postby Syst3m » Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:49 am

edit: at 100km/h it's a fraction under 3k barely tho
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Postby d_dan » Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:48 pm

late reply but the gpx has the longer ratio
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Postby LSpec » Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:29 am

d_dan wrote:late reply but the gpx has the longer ratio


i am trying to understand

the longer ratio is 4.058 for a gpx?
and there is something to change the ratio? an aftermarket final ratio?
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Postby d_dan » Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:09 am

you could put the non mivecs final drive in but i wouldnt bother really.

You will find that the non Mivecs are nippier up to 5500 RPM thats due to their gearbox ratio. But with the longer ratio the Mivec has a higher top speed in each gear.

A mitsubishi Colt Cyborg. dogbox will fit but the ratio is way too short to any form of normal driving.

In my personal oppinion i would just get a light weight flywheel as will help you get up through the revs quicker
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Postby TopCat » Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:59 am

d_dan wrote:.. get a light weight flywheel...


Any ideas where to pick up one of these Dan, you come across many while sourcing bits for your machine?
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Postby d_dan » Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:06 pm

Yip theres a few out there.
I Would go for RPW if you dont want your car to be off the road.

As they will send you out a new flywheel straight away,
As the likes of freeky parts need your old one for the O ring.

I was gonna get one for the car but there only really much good for NA cars.
Make sure you get new flywheel bolts of RPW too as the new one is less thick than the sandard one
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Postby TopCat » Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:31 pm

Thanks Dan
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Postby d_dan » Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:01 pm

any time
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Postby LSpec » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:46 am

my car is a DD, so i really dont care about the ratio but always is good to have an option :) and i am knowing better my fto
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Postby d_dan » Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:05 am

so is mine :lol:
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Postby LSpec » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:48 am

d_dan wrote:so is mine :lol:


and your car is highly modded, right? because is a 6a12T :o

mine is 110% stock, but i really like to have a shorter gearbox :oops:
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Re: FTO manual gearbox final drive ratio

Postby Aido C » Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:43 pm

All the gear ratios of different models of FTOs are on the link below. Actually this website has lots of great info about FTOs.
http://www.mivec.co.uk/

Click on 'FTO performance' on the left hand side of the screen.
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