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Re: Failed NCT on Emissions- very high

Postby karlf » Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:35 pm

Mine just failed on emissions and a steering rack gaiter today. Figures are as follows:
Low Idle:
co 0.81, allowed 0.5

High Idle:
Lamda:0.892 allowed:0.97-1.03
CO: 3.83 allowed 0.3
HC 204 ppm allowed:200

Would my issue be the same as fatboyfat7? My figures aren't as high so would the use of some redex help me?

P.S. Sorry for high jacking the thread :oops:
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Re: Failed NCT on Emissions- very high

Postby fatboyfat7 » Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:58 pm

You still have to change the ;ambda sensor too, the universal i got did nothing. Let me know how you get on and likewise...
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Re: Failed NCT on Emissions- very high

Postby Kace » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:11 pm

karlf wrote:Mine just failed on emissions and a steering rack gaiter today. Figures are as follows:
Low Idle:
co 0.81, allowed 0.5

High Idle:
Lamda:0.892 allowed:0.97-1.03
CO: 3.83 allowed 3.0
HC 204 ppm allowed:200

Would my issue be the same as fatboyfat7? My figures aren't as high so would the use of some redex help me?

P.S. Sorry for high jacking the thread :oops:


I would actually say that your Lambda isn't at fault here as your values are quite close - my values were through the roof and nowhere near the required tolerances.

Can you confirm that you drove the living bejesus ( :wink:) out of the car before dropping into the centre ?
If not, then a dose of Redex and a spirited drive before retest should get you through.
If so, then your next port of call really has to be the Cat - i.e. borrow someone elses (that you know has passed) for the test.

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Re: Failed NCT on Emissions- very high

Postby karlf » Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:12 pm

I did give it a good drive before hand but I didn't use any redex. I think I'l give that a try next and see what happens. I know the car had a stainless steel exhaust fitted 29/01/2008 so I would think the CAT is ok, I'm guessing a CAT should last 1+1/2 years no bother. Or does it? TBH I'm not clued up on that sort of stuff, :lol:
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Re: Failed NCT on Emissions- very high

Postby Kace » Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:19 pm

I wouldn't be overly optimistic that Redex will resolve your issue - but you can try it. I would be more inclined to look at the CAT.

Even though you have a new Stainless Steel exhaust - I'm sure that this would have been a CAT-back install and that your CAT is probably about 15 years old. I don't think that many people would have a brand new CAT and most will be running the original OEM CAT.
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Re: Failed NCT on Emissions- very high

Postby karlf » Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:41 pm

Well I'm not too sure whether the CAT was replaced at the time. The picture on the ricerocket website would suggest it was included but then again maybe not. I pm'd the previous owner to ask him so hopefully he can shed some light on it as it was him who had it done.
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Re: Failed NCT on Emissions- very high

Postby Dragonheart » Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:55 am

Chris thats seriously high for a cat that actually working, those figures are more like a failed one. The O2 sensor is the lambda sensor isnt it? Is there a seperate temperature sensor somewhere that might need replacing? Thought I saw somewhere there was a temp sensor related to the O2 sensor.
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Re: Failed NCT on Emissions- very high

Postby fatboyfat7 » Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:35 pm

I have no idea Martin TBH. Im wallowing in self pity. The CAT is Finers and Im sure he passed recently enough using it. I think my next thing is to buy a new cat. sounds about the right way to do it....
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Re: Failed NCT on Emissions- very high

Postby fatboyfat7 » Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:27 pm

A mechanic told me today that having an induction kit would also increase my emissions. He said on a standard air box theres some wire that regulates the air intake. Putting more air in will increase my emissions he claims. Is this accurate?
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Re: Failed NCT on Emissions- very high

Postby Kace » Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:37 pm

I don't think that there is any truth in this - there is definitely no wiring of any sort into the standard airbox.
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Re: Failed NCT on Emissions- very high

Postby Bernard » Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:54 pm

Kace wrote:I don't think that there is any truth in this - there is definitely no wiring of any sort into the standard airbox.


How about the MAF sensor on a GR/GX?
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Re: Failed NCT on Emissions- very high

Postby Kace » Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:53 pm

Kace wrote:I don't think that there is any truth in this - there is definitely no wiring of any sort into the standard airbox.


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Re: Failed NCT on Emissions- very high

Postby Bernard » Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:09 pm

Chances are a mechanic wouldn't know the difference, they'd take a look at the induction kit and assume the MAF had been removed.
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Re: Failed NCT on Emissions- very high

Postby fatboyfat7 » Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:59 pm

Either way I just had my 2nd re test this morning, this time I changed the engine temp sensor. No such luck. Emissions still at 3.53%. The readings from the lambda are still below acceptable levels so I think I might just buy a mitsi lambda and try it with toms cat. If that doesnt work I dont know what i'll do.
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