WANTED: Manual gearbox for 98 GPvR

[Pfee7583]

Yeah I know, I had to use headphones to make it out,
Hard to hear over the exhaust,
I'll record another now before work just parked so the exhaust noise is minimal.
Looking to the right of his comments I figure he's in Longford and I'm in Monaghan.
It's a bit of a spin and at present I only drive a few minute to work and back and no more to save doing further damage.
I'll post a new link before lunch

[Pfee7583]

Will need headphones for this video also
iPhone mic is crap https://youtu.be/LaJ2fgBosYw

[mivecrx]

Sounds worse than release bearing to me.

[brccrx]

Most likely its the input shaft bearing in the box, have replaced a good few so far on mitsis. No need to buy another gbox, its fixable no problem and if gears are all good i would just fix the gearbox rather than try to source another good one....

[mivecrx]

Never happened on Mitsubishi I've had but then again I drive very easy!!!! .... exactly how the problem would sound like a louder clunkier release bearing noise

[Pfee7583]

Thanks for the feedback
What's my next step now?
Remove gearbox and have it refurbished
Or try a new clutch kit that includes a new release bearing?

[mivecrx]

Remove gearbox , send it to a gearbox specialist or even better for this job send it to seb(brccrx) to fix bearings and inspect gears while doing it. Check your clutch and order new one. Then refit

[brccrx]

Yes, as above post, best way round it would be drop the box down, get someone or me to fix it (you not that far from me)
Put new clutch on it while You at and then enjoy years of trouble free driving....

2nd option (not recomended unless you love like me working on Your car hehe) if You can remove the box Yourself anytime then just take it down for fixing, inspect the clutch and if its still rather good just fix the bearing then change the clutch next time when it need to be....

Still You could drop it here and i would do all of the work but im not really having a lot of spare times these days tbh so all in would take me a week or so to get sorted.....

Remove gearbox , send it to a gearbox specialist or even better for this job send it to seb(brccrx) to fix bearings and inspect gears while doing it. Check your clutch and order new one. Then refit

Thanks for the keen words Aidan

[Pfee7583]

Hi all, just an update, left the car in to have a new clutch and release bearing fitted, the mechanic rang me up then to confirm the gearbox was f**ked, he sent it away to be refurbished and fitted the new clutch kit.
Car is flying now, seems I've way more power than before but I still have a slight problem though or maybe even 2
1st problem is I get it hard selecting 1st sometimes and not as often, 3rd aswell,
Also some mornings reversing off my driveway, which slops downwards towards the house I think I'm in reverse but when I drop the handbrake to go the car rolls forward
Went back to him during the week and I've to go back again cuz he was busy
He reckons the selector may be too tight, I don't have a clue exactly what he means
The other problem is that while I was doing a coat of wax the other day
I was down doing the bottom of the front bumper and noticed dripping
Probably somewhere beneath where the gearstick is from inside the car
I doesn't seem to be oil, I think it's water but have no idea where it's coming from
He tried fitting some vacuum testing device but his adaptor caps wouldn't fit mine
I did fill the windscreen washer reservoir a day or 2 before that cuz every time I braked a warning light was coming on
I very much doubt that is dripping cuz it's in the corner of the engine bay
The drippings dead centre
Any thoughts on this, may he have needed to remove any pipes while doing the gearbox and clutch that may not have been reconnected properly, and would the 1st problem be "the gear selector" too tight
Or has someone just done a crap job at repairing the box and now it's leaking and not selecting properly??

[mivecrx]

I think it would be impossible to do anything wrong fitting gear linkage. Just bolts to box and isn't adjustable.

[goz_83]

Check coolant levels. When was the last time water pump was done and how many miles ago. Check all hoses.

[Pfee7583]

I think it would be impossible to do anything wrong fitting gear linkage. Just bolts to box and isn't adjustable.

Any idea why I literally have to ram it into 1st sometimes?
And sometimes it could take me a few attempts to get it fully into reverse
It's really annoying, after spending over a grand I was hoping it would've been 100%

[Pfee7583]

Check coolant levels. When was the last time water pump was done and how many miles ago. Check all hoses.

I'm gonna mark the coolant bottle tomorrow then check it in a few days
Funny enough the day I noticed dripping was also the 1st day I had cool air on (was 22 degrees Monday)
Could that be anything to do with it?
When I get it back in the garage I'll get the hoses checked
And no idea when the water pump was done last, there's 172000kms on the clock

[mivecrx]

I think it would be impossible to do anything wrong fitting gear linkage. Just bolts to box and isn't adjustable.

Any idea why I literally have to ram it into 1st sometimes?
And sometimes it could take me a few attempts to get it fully into reverse
It's really annoying, after spending over a grand I was hoping it would've been 100%

2 things :

I would bleed the clutch until it's absolutely no air, and use good fluid.

I also think I would check gear oil level right away, make sure it's full!

[Temeeo]

If you've been using the air-condition then then the water that you see on the ground is most likely from the AC evaporator - perfectly normal. I freaked out about it few years ago too!

As for the gear change issue, as suggested bleed the clutch properly and check the gearbox oil level.
Also check the gear selector bracket (at the back of the gearbox) - the rubber in them can perish and allow for movement - with that said I imagine that they would check for any signs of play when the clutch/gearbox was out.



I also heard that worn engine mounts can cause issues when changing gears.

[brccrx]

Pity you didnt decide to leave it here, you wouldnt spent even half of that 1k and biger chances there wouldnt be any trouble with it after the job is done, but sure its too late now so:

First i would talk to your mechanic and tell him to sort that as its not fixed properly....

[Gerry]

Sounds like gear linkage rubber and
Bracket as outlined by Temeo.

I had a similar issues on mine also.


I had a gearbox there for ya.
Would have only cost ya fraction
Of that.
Ah well, no bother

[Pfee7583]

If you've been using the air-condition then then the water that you see on the ground is most likely from the AC evaporator - perfectly normal. I freaked out about it few years ago too!

As for the gear change issue, as suggested bleed the clutch properly and check the gearbox oil level.
Also check the gear selector bracket (at the back of the gearbox) - the rubber in them can perish and allow for movement - with that said I imagine that they would check for any signs of play when the clutch/gearbox was out.



I also heard that worn engine mounts can cause issues when changing gears.

Hi, thanks for the reply and great info
I think you may be right on both problems there
As I said I only noticed dripping the 1st day I used the AC
I'll start the car later and put the heating on full and check for dripping
If there's none I'm sorted there
The gear change problem must be the bracket and rubbers
I think that's the part the mechanic said he was going to check (he said the selector bracket might be too tight or something like that)
Are the parts in the picture what I'm looking for?
If so where could I get them, I've already tried eBay
Thanks again for your help

[Pfee7583]

Sounds like gear linkage rubber and
Bracket as outlined by Temeo.

I had a similar issues on mine also.


I had a gearbox there for ya.
Would have only cost ya fraction
Of that.
Ah well, no bother

Hi Gerry,
I was gonna take the box off you the 1st time till you sold the blue FTO on DoneDeal
That's when I decided to take it to be looked at
I done alright, you were looking 350, For a box with unknown condition (from a corroded car if I remember the ad right)
Refurbishing cost 500, least I know now it's in good condition
The fraction there is only 7/10
I also had to buy an Exedy organic clutch kit and pay near 400 labour
Thanks all the same

[Pfee7583]

Pity you didnt decide to leave it here, you wouldnt spent even half of that 1k and biger chances there wouldnt be any trouble with it after the job is done, but sure its too late now so:

First i would talk to your mechanic and tell him to sort that as its not fixed properly....

Pity you weren't in my area
I'm the type of person would much rather leave the car with someone that knows them
I had to ask around for about a week before I decided where to leave it
If I can just get the bracket or whatever it is I'll be sorted
Thanks for all your info and comments

[Pfee7583]

If you've been using the air-condition then then the water that you see on the ground is most likely from the AC evaporator - perfectly normal. I freaked out about it few years ago too!

As for the gear change issue, as suggested bleed the clutch properly and check the gearbox oil level.
Also check the gear selector bracket (at the back of the gearbox) - the rubber in them can perish and allow for movement - with that said I imagine that they would check for any signs of play when the clutch/gearbox was out.



I also heard that worn engine mounts can cause issues when changing gears.

Hi, thanks for the reply and great info
I think you may be right on both problems there
As I said I only noticed dripping the 1st day I used the AC
I'll start the car later and put the heating on full and check for dripping
If there's none I'm sorted there
The gear change problem must be the bracket and rubbers
I think that's the part the mechanic said he was going to check (he said the selector bracket might be too tight or something like that)
Are the parts in the picture what I'm looking for?
If so where could I get them, I've already tried eBay
Thanks again for your help

Or shout out the rest of the part number on the bracket and I'll search online
Can only see MR953***
Thanks

[mivecrx]

I very much doubt that the person who fixed it knows more than seb(brccrx)!!. Would of been worth driving that extra few miles.

I also offered gearbox, perfect lsd and could of been tested.


My advice is to check gear oil is new and full!

[Pfee7583]

I very much doubt that the person who fixed it knows more than seb(brccrx)!!. Would of been worth driving that extra few miles.

I also offered gearbox, perfect lsd and could of been tested.


My advice is to check gear oil is new and full!

Sorry, that's what I mean, I'd rather have left it with him (someone that knows an FTO) rather than where I left it (a garage that has never seen one)
Driving to Longford was never an issue, getting back with no car would've been a problem
My brothers stubborn, got it hard enough to get a lift back from the garage 15kms away lol
I'll hopefully get it looked at again during the week

[goz_83]

If you've been using the air-condition then then the water that you see on the ground is most likely from the AC evaporator - perfectly normal. I freaked out about it few years ago too!

As for the gear change issue, as suggested bleed the clutch properly and check the gearbox oil level.
Also check the gear selector bracket (at the back of the gearbox) - the rubber in them can perish and allow for movement - with that said I imagine that they would check for any signs of play when the clutch/gearbox was out.



I also heard that worn engine mounts can cause issues when changing gears.

Hi, thanks for the reply and great info
I think you may be right on both problems there
As I said I only noticed dripping the 1st day I used the AC
I'll start the car later and put the heating on full and check for dripping
If there's none I'm sorted there
The gear change problem must be the bracket and rubbers
I think that's the part the mechanic said he was going to check (he said the selector bracket might be too tight or something like that)
Are the parts in the picture what I'm looking for?
If so where could I get them, I've already tried eBay
Thanks again for your help

Or shout out the rest of the part number on the bracket and I'll search online
Can only see MR953***
Thanks

You must be looking on a phone/pad. The last three digits are 260.

[brccrx]

I would still talk to the mechanic who did all the work and ask him to take a proper look at the car again to try and sort it or help to narrow down the problem, ask him what spec gear oil he have use in your gearbox, its well known that only one specific good brand oil should be used, other types might cause some gear changing trouble etc...

Its hard to sort out something without diagnosing the problem properly, first and easiest is checking the condition and level of gearbox oil as Aidan is suggesting along with verifying what sort of oil it is.

Then i would look in to the bracket itself as if fitted at even slight angle off it might cause trouble.
On the gearbox end gear linkage there are two small bushes, one of em likes to break easly, i would look in there too.
Bracket that holds the gear linkage likes to split from its mounting, easy to spot too.
Detach the linkage from gearbox and check if it moves freely in its shield, is easy to bent the gearbox linkage is someone was rough enough not following right order steps in order to remove the gbox.

These above are free and simple check ups so i would start from there before starting to spend money.

Is it me or this still "wanted gearbox" thread