Hi

[Kersh]

How are y'all. Changing cars from a GTO to something 2 litre.And Ftos look lovely. A few questions. Are all GPX mivec. It has to be a Mivec. Also, having experienced Mitsi autoboxes with the GTO, are FTO boxes as weak. So far the GTO has had a full replacement box, then I serviced it all correctly and the 4th/od went in it. I dont mind getting a tip Fto, and I have facilities to service it properly, but if its anything like the Gto box, then no way. also what are the different chassis numbers. You know, GTO is a z16a, I have seen 2 Fto ones, d-3a or something, and a d-2a. I dont want to end up getting suckered into buying a GR cos I cant tell the model differences. Any help would be really appreciated. Thanks,

[CJ]

Welcome Kersh, get bored ranting and raving with the nuts on the octane.ie forums?

To break it down to basics, theres 3 main models:

GS - DE2A 1.8L 125PS
GR - DE3A 2.0L V6 170PS (180PS in 97+ models)
GPX - DE3A 2.0L V6 MIVEC 200PS

The 4 speed Tip gearbox in the press 97 models is known to be weaker than the 5 speed Tip in 97+ models. If the ATF hasn't been changed regularly during the life of the car, then theres a change of gearbox failure on higher milage motors
The 5-speed tip box on the other hand is pretty bullet proof, in saying that, the vast majority of FTOs in this country are 94-96 models, newer (facelift) models tend to be thin on the ground. If you want more info, check out the buying guide on the main part of the site.

CJ

[Kersh]

Thanks. Ye, some of the octane guys are a bit narrow minded.. , and a bit snobby. But ye, I just wont tax 2 3 litre cars, so the Gto is going and the 911 is staying. May even try swap the gto for a Gpx fto. What is a surefire way of telling the difference between a mivec and non-mivec 2 litre. Are the engine numbers different. Thanks for the reply.

[CJ]

What is a surefire way of telling the difference between a mivec and non-mivec 2 litre. Are the engine numbers different.

The engine gives it away, the GPX (& GPvR) has Mivec written on the engine cover and looks like this:



Note that the oil filler cap is on the LHS. There are also Mivec stickers low down on the rear quater panels

The GR (& GX) non-Mivec engines on the other hand look like this:



Note that the oil filler cap is on the RHS.

HTH

CJ

[Kersh]

Thanks a million. Let the hunt begin.

[Daz]

Welcome,

And good luck on finding a FTO for yourself, and you won't need to know much more cj told you the score, but don't be put off by a tip just remember to service it regular,

Have fun

Daz...